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	<title>Broken Credit Blog -- Mortgage Foreclosure Short Sale Credit Report Loan Modification &#187; FICO</title>
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		<title>Hey Brian Where&#8217;s My FICO?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 18:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[OK,  Guess What?  I went to purchase my FICO score from MyFico and was told I can&#8217;t due to not having a score!!.  What does this mean?  Thanks!  P.S.  Love this site!!! Joanne &#8212;&#8212;&#8212;- This means that you do not have enough reported credit for a score to be provided.  I would recommend going to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK,  Guess What?  I went to purchase my FICO score from MyFico and was told I can&#8217;t due to not having a score!!.  What does this mean?  Thanks!  P.S.  Love this site!!!</p>
<p>Joanne<span id="more-2503"></span></p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>This means that you do not have enough reported credit for a score to be provided.  I would recommend going to your local credit union/bank and getting a secured credit card or two, if financially feasible.  This will provide your report with positive tradelines. </p>
<p>Brian C. Aber<br />
Senior Account Executive &#8211; HTDI Financial Charter Board Member &#8211; National Association of Credit Services Organizations <a href="mailto:brian@htdifinancial.com">brian@htdifinancial.com</a><br />
877-877-4834 x704</p>
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		<title>Consumer Finance Tradelines</title>
		<link>http://www.brokencredit.com/consumer-finance-tradelines/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 19:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Credit Reports]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[One the things thats hurting my credit report which I obtained from Myfico.com is a consumer finance account. Its states that a consumer finance companies typically grant loans to people with poor credit histories.  The only consumer finance company I have on my report is Ford Credit, an automobile loan.  Why would this affect my [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One the things thats hurting my credit report which I obtained from Myfico.com is a consumer finance account.</p>
<p>Its states that a consumer finance companies typically grant loans to people with poor credit histories. </p>
<p>The only consumer finance company I have on my report is Ford Credit, an automobile loan. </p>
<p>Why would this affect my FICO scroes?</p>
<p>Georgia <span id="more-1331"></span></p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>Hi Georgia,</p>
<p>You’ve answered your own question within the question: “consumer finance companies typically grant loans to people with poor credit histories”.  Don&#8217;t worry too much about it, though &#8211; it&#8217;s not a major factor.  It&#8217;s contained in a portion of FICO called &#8220;Types of Credit&#8221; that accounts for the lowest percentage of your total score.</p>
<p>If given a choice, however, avoid any other loans that will result in a finance company notation on the report.  Furniture store loans and any &#8216;buy now pay later&#8217; types are at the top of the &#8216;no-no&#8217; list.</p>
<p>Thanks for the questions and hope this helps.</p>
<p>Paul</p>
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		<title>The 2008 Credit Repair Seminar is now LIVE!</title>
		<link>http://www.brokencredit.com/the-2008-credit-repair-seminar-is-now-live/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 23:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Credit Repair Seminar]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[It was added an hour or so ago and I already see people are registering for it, so may as well make a post about it.  I was going to wait until January 1, 2008, but what the heck.  Why wait? The Raise Your Credit Score seminar for 2008 is available now! It’s fifteen-minutes of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img title="New Years Times Square" style="width: 237px; height: 271px" height="271" alt="New Years Times Square" src="http://www.brokencredit.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/NewYearsTimesSquare.jpg" width="237" align="right" />It was added an hour or so ago and I already see people are registering for it, so may as well make a post about it.  I was going to wait until January 1, 2008, but what the heck.  Why wait?</p>
<p>The <a title="Free Online Seminar" href="https://www.brokencredit.com/Free-Credit-Repair-Seminar.php" target="_blank">Raise Your Credit Score seminar for 2008</a> is available now!</p>
<p>It’s fifteen-minutes of important preemptive actions you can take to improve your credit score <em>before</em> applying for that mortgage, car loan, job, insurance, etc. </p>
<p>Your introductory course to credit repair; no time is wasted.  It is action packed, like the fireworks in Times Square.  Well, not quite - how exciting can you really make credit repair?&#8230;</p>
<p>I got it! </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s call it <a title="Free Online Seminar" href="https://www.brokencredit.com/Free-Credit-Repair-Seminar.php" target="_blank">Fifty FICO Points in Fifteen-Minutes</a>!</p>
<p>Make sure you have a pen ready when you listen to take notes.</p>
<p>After you’ve improved your credit score, make sure you tell others about our site!</p>
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		<title>Authorized User Me</title>
		<link>http://www.brokencredit.com/authorized-user-me/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 20:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Credit Cards]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[You posted in June of 2007, that Fico will no longer count authorized user.  I am now being told that this never went into effect.  Your article also mentioned that it would go into effect in Sept. of 2007 for most lenders.  I truly believe in the information on this blog and would like to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You <a title="FICO Will No Longer Count Authorized User" href="http://www.brokencredit.com/?p=734">posted in June of 2007</a>, that Fico will no longer count authorized user.  I am now being told that this never went into effect.  Your article also mentioned that it would go into effect in Sept. of 2007 for most lenders. </p>
<p>I truly believe in the information on this blog and would like to know if this other person knows what they are talking about.  Please respond</p>
<p>J.A. <span id="more-1283"></span></p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>Hello J.A.,</p>
<p>The <a title="FICO Will No Longer County Authorized User" href="http://www.brokencredit.com/?p=734">June 5, 2007 article</a> was a copy of a press release from Fair Isaac:</p>
<blockquote><p>The adjustment removes authorized user accounts from consideration by the scoring model in FICO 08, the newest version of the Classic FICO credit score which Fair Isaac expects to become available to lenders starting in September.</p></blockquote>
<p>That never happened.  The FICO 08 model hasn’t been released yet.  The WSJ brings us the latest news from December 18, 2007 regarding the release of the FICO 08 model:</p>
<blockquote><p>Consumers could start seeing the new FICO scores by the spring, though some lenders may take additional time to test the system to see how it works with their business and loan portfolios. Fair Isaac, which last revamped its scoring model earlier this decade, says it is accelerating its FICO 08 rollout, partly in response to lenders&#8217; demand for better risk-management tools.</p></blockquote>
<p>Here’s an interesting footnote to all of this.  Most mortgage automated underwriting systems use the Classic version of FICO.  Fair Isaac developed an arguably superior model several years ago called <a title="Credit Score Confusion" href="http://www.brokencredit.com/?p=125">NextGen</a> and despite Fair Isaac’s attempts to market NextGen, FNMA and FHLMC still stick with Classic to this day.  And, to my knowledge, <a title="VantageScore" href="http://www.brokencredit.com/?p=375">VantageScore</a> isn’t utilized by many (read: any) mortgage lenders.  So, now we hear that there is a new FICO 08 version slated for Spring 2008.  OK, that’s nice, BUT…</p>
<p><strong>When will Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac adopt the FICO 08 model?</strong> </p>
<p>My guess is not immediately.</p>
<p>You will notice that there is a footnote at the bottom of the Broken Credit Blog&#8217;s older Authorized User articles that reference that June 5, 2007 FICO press release.  I want to thank you J.A. for your question.  I’m going to add a footnote to that June 5, 2007 article referencing this article.  The Authorized User strategy continues for the time being.</p>
<p>Thanks for the questions and hope this helps.</p>
<p>Paul</p>
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		<title>Fair Isaac v. The Big Three</title>
		<link>http://www.brokencredit.com/fair-isaac-v-the-big-three/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 17:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Credit Scores]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[A follow up to Credit Score Confusion&#8230; It&#8217;s discovery time and Fair Isaac wants a peek at the recipe for VantageScore.  The following excerpt is from a September 25, 2007 ruling: &#8220;On January 12, 2007, Fair Isaac served discovery requests seeking “the algorithm and the software and process used in conjunction with the algorithm to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A follow up to <a title="Credit Score Confusion" href="http://www.brokencredit.com/?p=125">Credit Score Confusion</a>&#8230;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s discovery time and Fair Isaac wants a peek at the recipe for <a title="VantageScore" href="http://www.brokencredit.com/?p=375">VantageScore</a>.  The following excerpt is from a September 25, 2007 ruling:</p>
<p>&#8220;On January 12, 2007, Fair Isaac served discovery requests seeking “the algorithm and the software and process used in conjunction with the algorithm to produce a credit score.” Schlosser Aff. [Docket No. 86] Ex. A. at 3. On April 25, 2007, Defendants moved for a protective order precluding discovery regarding “the actual model, design, algorithm, computer program, portions or drafts thereof and numerous other materials that would reveal the actual model, design or computer program (collectively, the ‘Algorithm’), used by Defendants in calculating the VantageScore credit score.” Mem. in Supp. of Defs.’ Mot. for Protective Order [Docket No. 84] at 1-2. Simultaneously, Fair Isaac moved to compel production of VantageScore’s algorithm and related documents.&#8221;</p>
<p>And U.S. District Court Judge Ann D. Montgomery says: &#8220;Defendats&#8217; Consolidated Objections [Docket No. 179] are OVERRULED&#8221;.</p>
<p>I wonder if &#8220;Trans Union admitted in its Answer that “certain Trans Union employees who had access to Fair Isaac’s confidential information participated in the planning of VantageScore . . . .” had anything to do with it? </p>
<p>What do you think [rhetorical]?</p>
<p>Once again I say: Can&#8217;t we all just get along?</p>
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		<title>The Secured Solution</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 18:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Bad Credit]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Collections]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[What do I do???  About 3 years ago, my husband and I decided that we wanted to fix our credit report, and logically, at tax-return time we paid off all accounts that were in collections.  We thought that this would help us, but our credit report seems to have stayed stagnant.  We got a mortagage [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do I do??? </p>
<p>About 3 years ago, my husband and I decided that we wanted to fix our credit report, and logically, at tax-return time we paid off all accounts that were in collections. </p>
<p>We thought that this would help us, but our credit report seems to have stayed stagnant. </p>
<p>We got a mortagage since (in 2006) at a decent rate, but only after much shopping (we wanted fixed rate). The mortgage isn&#8217;t even helping our FICO. </p>
<p>All of our accounts that we paid off state Charge off in current status, and Paid charge-off in comments. </p>
<p>We currently have NO credit cards, no auto loans, and we pay our student loans on time.  We recently tried to get a credit card (hoping to raise our FICO), but were denied. </p>
<p>What can we do to raise our credit score?  How can we get the creidt that we need to get in order to raise our FICO so that we can get credit?</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Pam <span id="more-1012"></span></p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>Hi Pam,</p>
<p><a title="Can I Get Me Some Goodwill?" href="http://www.brokencredit.com/?p=434">Goodwill letter</a> the paid charge-offs and open three <a title="Counter bad credit with secured credit cards" href="http://www.brokencredit.com/?p=143">secured credit cards</a>.  A credit limit of $300 each is fine.  </p>
<p>Keep in mind that some outfits offer &#8216;secured credit cards&#8217; that <em>don&#8217;t report</em> to the big three CRAs &#8211; obviously, that would not be a benefit.  Last I checked, Bank of America, Fifth Third, and Colonial Bank offered decent deals on secured credit cards. </p>
<p>Once the cards are open, charge them in the first month and then pay them off entirely.  In six months time, your score will be wonderfully improved.</p>
<p>Thanks for the questions and hope this helps.</p>
<p>Paul</p>
<p>P.S. Please report back in six months so that we can add to this post.  The Broken Credit Blog becomes a lonely place otherwise.</p>
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		<title>20 Medical Collections Deleted!</title>
		<link>http://www.brokencredit.com/20-medical-collections-deleted/</link>
		<comments>http://www.brokencredit.com/20-medical-collections-deleted/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 21:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Collections]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[I recently was able to convince a collection agency to delete collections with a $0 balance. I have a total of 20 collections on my report from the same collection agency, all medical, and he deleted all but 1 that still has a balance. The one that remains is one of the oldest as well, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently was able to convince a collection agency to delete collections with a $0 balance.</p>
<p>I have a total of 20 collections on my report from the same collection agency, all medical, and he deleted all but 1 that still has a balance. The one that remains is one of the oldest as well, 2002.</p>
<p>I had filed a dispute with all 3 MCB as he had asked me to do and yesterday they contacted me that all had been deleted. How long will it take for credit score to reflect the changes?</p>
<p>I am looking to buy a new vehicle to accomodate my handicapped son so hoped you could help..Thanks in advance and wow what a great site.</p>
<p>Sandy <span id="more-1010"></span> </p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>Hi Sandy,</p>
<p>Great job!  By the way, your <a title="FICO Has No Memory" href="http://www.brokencredit.com/?p=380">credit score already reflects the changes</a>.</p>
<p>I love to hear good news!</p>
<p>Paul</p>
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		<title>Collection Reporting Wrongs</title>
		<link>http://www.brokencredit.com/collection-reporting-wrongs/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 14:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Collections]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why is it that paying the collection agency without getting a PFD can lower your score? How does FICO come up with that calculation? Why won&#8217;t your score raise with a paid in full or 0 balance? Oh&#8230;Awesome website by the way. Chuck &#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211; Hello Chuck, It has to do with the timing.  First, paying [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is it that paying the collection agency without getting a PFD can lower your score? How does FICO come up with that calculation? Why won&#8217;t your score raise with a paid in full or 0 balance?<br />
Oh&#8230;Awesome website by the way.</p>
<p>Chuck <span id="more-982"></span></p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Hello Chuck,</p>
<p>It has to do with the timing.  First, <a title="Paying an old collection may REDUCE your score" href="http://www.brokencredit.com/?p=41">paying an old collection will likely reduce a credit score</a>.  On the other hand, if the collection originated within the past two years, then you may see an increase in your FICO when it is paid.  Hold the phone – we’re not done with this.  The problem is that the credit reporting tactics of collection agencies have the effect of making these items appear more recent than reality and the most egregious example of this is <a title="Credit Bureaus Under Fire Part VI" href="http://www.brokencredit.com/?p=784">re-aging</a>. </p>
<p>In conclusion, this is the credit reporting system we live with.  These are the collection agencies we deal with.  The Broken Credit Blog fights for consumers.  <a title="Pay For Delete-athon" href="http://www.brokencredit.com/?p=641">Pay for delete</a> is a solution for many.</p>
<p>Thanks for the questions and hope this helps.</p>
<p>Paul</p>
<p>P.S. Of course there are many other solutions in the Broken Credit Blog’s <a title="Broken Credit Blog's Library" href="http://www.brokencredit.com/Credit-Repair-Mortgage.php">credit repair library</a>.</p>
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		<title>Credit Score Improvement Seminar</title>
		<link>http://www.brokencredit.com/credit-score-improvement-seminar/</link>
		<comments>http://www.brokencredit.com/credit-score-improvement-seminar/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 13:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Credit Repair]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Broken Credit, LLC welcomes you to Raise Your Credit Score.  Our free thirty minute seminar is NOW AVAILABLE and will discuss the following topics: Why errors exist on credit reports How to obtain a copy of your free credit report The proper way to dispute inaccurate items How to re-age a derogatory account to delete [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Broken Credit, LLC welcomes you to Raise Your Credit Score.  Our free thirty minute seminar is NOW AVAILABLE and will discuss the following topics:</p>
<ul>
<li>Why errors exist on credit reports</li>
<li>How to obtain a copy of your free credit report</li>
<li>The proper way to dispute inaccurate items</li>
<li>How to re-age a derogatory account to delete the derogatory history</li>
<li>How to remove collection accounts from your bureau</li>
<li>How to improve your credit score even if you have no bad credit</li>
</ul>
<p>This free online seminar is for anyone who desires to improve their credit score THE RIGHT WAY.  Broken Credit, LLC has seen a tremendous need for the general public to have this information and it is our great pleasure to bring this seminar to you for free.</p>
<p>For those of you who will be buying or refinancing a home, this free thirty minute seminar could make your dream of homeownership possible and save you tens of thousands of dollars in interest!</p>
<p><a title="Free Online Seminar to Raise Your Credit Score!" href="https://www.brokencredit.com/Free-Credit-Repair-Seminar.php" target="_blank">Register &#038; Watch Today!</a></p>
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		<title>Joint Cardholder v. Authorized User</title>
		<link>http://www.brokencredit.com/joint-cardholder-v-authorized-user/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 13:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Paul,   I just watched the seminar.  Great info!  I had a question about the joint cardholder.  I want to raise my score and I have a relative that will allow me to be a joint card holder.  Do I actually need to use the second card in order to reap the benefits of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Paul,<br />
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I just <a title="Free Online Seminars" href="http://www.brokencredit.com/Free-Online-Seminars.php" target="_blank">watched the seminar</a>.  Great info!  I had a question about the joint cardholder.  I want to raise my score and I have a relative that will allow me to be a joint card holder.  Do I actually need to use the second card in order to reap the benefits of better credit?  I do not want to put her credit at risk.  I know that the authorized user is no longer an option.  How is the joint card holder different?  I appreciate your help.<br />
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Sincerely,<br />
Deandra <span id="more-925"></span></p>
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<p>Hi Deandra,</p>
<p>The <a title="FICO will nolonger count Authorized User" href="http://www.brokencredit.com/?p=734" target="_blank">Authorized User will soon become a credit repair dinosaur</a>.  Experian will be the first to effectively make the AU extinct beginning next month.  Equifax and TransUnion are expected to follow suit next year. </p>
<p>The joint cardholder will replace the AU strategy and works the same way.  When the card arrives, you will want to make a small charge and then pay that amount off entirely upon receipt of your first statement.  I’d say you could cut the card up at that point, but the joint cardholder is different in that regard.  For one, you will now both be guarantors for the credit card payments [whether good or bad].  And secondly, the joint cardholder requires an underwriting approval [the AU does not].  I say not to let either of those scare anyone, just consider this.  The potential for a credit score increase of 50+ points is a tremendous gift, only now, that gift comes with responsibility.</p>
<p>Thanks for the questions and hope this helps.</p>
<p>Paul</p>
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